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Letters To Landover: "Pastor's Mailbag"

NOVEMBER 2008
A Small Sample of e-mails unedited and in original form


Your article written on the Veggie Tales is NUTS! Veggie Tales was created to make the Bible a more entertaining way to teach children about it. When you were 5 years old, do you think you really wanted your parents to recite you stories in the Bible in monotone. No! This is a very healthy way for young children to learn about the teachings in the Holy Book. I myself am a Quaker, also raised as a Christian but I think that your article was just absurd. A cucumber used as a phallic symbol? Like, really? I honestly don't agree with that at all. The creators of this company are genius.   By the way, you might want to get your facts straight or learn how to spell. Its Shamoo the whale, not Shampoo. And JUSTIN Guarini not JUSTINE. What does he have to do with any of this anyways?

Cray0la


ISN'T THERE ENOUGH HATE IN THE WORLD? DO NOT DELUDE YOURSELF INTO THINKING THAT SPREADING HATE IS CHRISTIAN. HATE IS THE DEVIL'S TOOL, NOT GOD'S. YOU TEACH HATE AND BLAME AND YOU ARE A TOOL OF THE DEVIL.

JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN AND DIED A JEW. YOU HATE HIS PEOPLE - YOU HATE HIM. DON'T DELUDE YOURSELF FOR A SECOND THAT JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE PERSONIFICATION OF LOVE WILL WELCOME A HATEFUL SINNER SUCH AS YOURSELF TO HIS KINGDOM.

JEWISH PEOPLE ARE CREATIVE, THEY ARE TALENTED AND THEY ARE MOTIVATED AND THEY HAVE LEARNED TO SURVIVE IN HATE INFESTED ATMOSPHERES ALL OF THEIR HISTORY. DO YOU INVEST TIME ON YOUR HATE RAG TO PRAISE THE MANY WONDERFUL SHOWS THAT JEWISH PEOPLE BRING TO THE PUBLIC? BET NOT... OR THE ENDLESS CONTRIBUTIONS TO MEDICINE (MET ANYONE WITH POLIO LATELY?) AND TO ENTERTAINMENT AND TO EDUCATION AND TO PHILANTHROPY AND TO EVERY SOCIETY THEY ARE IN? AHHH, THAT DOESN'T COUNT DOES IT WHEN HATE IS YOUR ONLY AGENDA.

FYI: I AGREE 100% THAT THE SHOW 'FEAR' IS A HORRIBLE SHOW AND PLAYING WITH DEADLY SPIRITS THAT ARE EVIL. SUBJECTING CHILDREN TO THESE RISKS IS A TERRIBLE SIN. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID - CHRISTIANS WORK ON THAT SHOW AS WELL PROBABLY MANY MORE THAN JEWS.. WHY POINT ONLY AT THE JEWS. ITS A BAD AND A WRONG SHOW AND EVERYONE ATTACHED TO IT IS INADVERTENTLY DOING THE DEVIL'S BIDDING - BUT THEN SO ARE YOU WHEN YOU BLAME AND SPREAD HATE..

I WOULD SAY MAY GOD FORGIVE YOUR HATEFUL HEART BUT GOD FORGIVE ME, I CAN'T.... FOR SIX MILLION VERY GOOD REASONS. v SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU FOR CALLING YOURSELF A PREACHER OF GOD - GOD NEVER DID NOR EVER WILL TEACH HATE. JEWS ARE GOD'S CHOSEN. YOU ARE A SERIOUSLY FLAWED PERSON WHO SULLIES THE NAME OF GOOD CHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE.

ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU AND START PREACHING LOVE BEFORE THE FIRES OF HELL CONSUME YOUR TWISTED HEART.

REV. TERRI


Dear Sir

It has come to my attention that this so called church Is just a place where people come and vent homophobic remarks and spread vicious remarks? About other faiths and other people different may I just ask how such lewd and despicable remarks? Can be sent out on church boards and then all you do is hide behind these views by using god As somewhat as a human shield for your fascist remarks upon reading the why isn’t Jesus a homo I was nearly sick why would you even say that to a child, you and your whole church is nothing more last ditch attempt to be one with the lord.

  And before you question my faith or go into the whole I must be gay angle which I can see coming from a mile off I’m a perfectly normal man who is 20 years old with a stable job and who attends church every Sunday. so as a fellow church goer and believer of the lord and the holy ghost why is it my views are so different to yours?

Luke Spencer


You are an idiot.  How do you know that the bible is fact?   Because you read it.   What about math?  I guess math was created by some being.  And I guess that all those Greeks and Romans that were alive way before 2000BC were lies.  And how do you know Noah's Arc is real.  Yes 10 years ago they said they found it but guess what that way by plane and no human has ever been up there to prove it.  The Christians like you say that God wont let that happen yet, I say bullshit, with all the technology we have and they can climb a damn mountain that isn't as high as Everest?  Give me a break and go back to school you homophobe, bigoted asshole.

Darrel Varela


If those are truly quotes from children that is disgusting their parents are preaching hatred in the name of God??? FYI God is all knowing, all loving all, excepting maybe you should try teaching that in your church instead of breeding racism I am floored that you as a congregation would allow this to go on. You are not people of God you are people of Hate and should be ashamed! I know this probably falling on deaf ears as people that are so bigoted and hateful are very closed minded and ignorant but I hope that God truly does touch your heart one day and let you know that we are ALL equal in God’s eyes!!!

Jeanette Wilkey


HELLO SO CALLED PASTOR THANKS FOR READING THROUGH YOUR WEB-SITE AND IT REALLY THOUGHT ME ALLOT ABOUT BEEN A CHRISTAN, BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL SO SICK BUT IT STILL MAKE MY FAITH STRONGER BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT YET AS BAD AS SAUL ART 9-1-7 , SO THERE IS STILL TIME FOR YOU TO BE SAVE.AND FOR YOU I PRAY THAT THE LORD SHOULD SHOW YOU THE WAY.GOD BLESS YOU.BUT IF NOT READ  MATTHEW 22.34.40, I CANT WAIT TO SEE GOD THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST USE YOU AS IS INSTRUMENT. YOU WILL GO TO THOSE YOU PROCLAIM AS SLAVES AS SLAVES AND TO THOSE YOU PROCLAIM AS FOOL AS A FOOL TO TELL THEM THAT JESUS CHRIST DO NOT DISCRIMINATE WHEN IT COMES TO COLOUR OF THERE SKIN.GOD BE WITH YOU.

Jeffery Akinrinnade


You people are completely insane and either need to get a life or some serious therapy!!!!

Rob Hopkin


I do not believe your website to be true. I believe it to be a hoax. If it is true than your religion is a cult. If your website is true than you do not have the heart of Jesus and you need to repent immediately and ask The Holy Spirit to have love for all man. Also you've taken the bible verses and Jesus' teachings completely out of context. You are much like the Pharisees. It is amazing how people are still so blind to the heart of GOD. I thank GOD every day that he is my friend. I will pray for you folks and hope that Jesus may open your eyes to the evil you advertise. Your beliefs are nothing of Jesus' and I thank him that he is so different. God is a God of mercy and he is the only one that may determine whom shall go go to hell. Thank you for your time.

Tristan Thomas


christ himself said awake those who are slow of heart. the harlots and publicans will see the kingdom of god before you and those you are taking to hell with you ever will. indeed homosexuality is an abomination unto the eyes of god. however the blood of jesus demands mercy not sacrifice. he calls the SINNERS not the righteous to repentance. friend you are so bound up by the letter of the law that you forgot the one that the law pointed to, the one who shows the way out of the mire of sin. repent of what you did and quickly for the sake of yourself and your followers you are taking into the ditch of religious legalism with you.  GET SAVED    

LISA


You are kidding right? How dare you offer a turkey in return for  people to accept OUR LORD AS THEIR SAVIOR. This is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourslef

Muns0n015


You are disgracing God Himself  and the entire christian community. We are all called to love not HATE.  Maybe you should check your scripture before posting erroneous  messages. May the peace and love of GOD OUR ETERNAL FATHER RAIN DOWN UPON YOU AND SOFTEN YOUR WORDS THAT COME FROM YOUR HARDENED HEART. God bless you my friend.

Justin Taraskewich


I regreat you so called pastor posting such a racist transcription, in first place Deacon Fred, Brother Harry, Deacon Crockett and Deacon Wilson, have some race issues, how can you serve God and call yourself Christians and pervert the scriptures in this way by putting a rece down by faith? did faith made God black or white, did God even say which colour he is? does the Bible teach about regarding mankind according to his colour? don't you read your Bible that God looks to the heart of man and not the physical appereance? God created us in His image and His image is not black or white, God is spirit and spirit has no colour I know it by faith. Jesus could be black, yes and could be white, but who cares about his colour? His blood was red, black people and white people all have red blood.

Laps Lapimpa


Your view on women is corrupted. When God said “all men are holy” he said it universally. Jesus’s most close followers were the women they never manipulated him or lied like his disciples. Having a baby is beautiful, and mr.paster you wouldn’t be here without us. Not only that God refers to women as a crown of glory, and men must love us as Jesus loved the church. It doesn’t sound like you love women in that way. We were not made for you men to use us as a doormat because that would be disgraceful to God. God says for women and men to submit to each other. Maybe you should read the love chapter. And just to let you know the bible wasn’t written by Jesus it was written by men in that cultural day and back then women were property and jesus rebuked that just to let you know. Your pretty ignorant for a pastor. Jesus loves all his children, and in the bible the disciples talked of the beauty of women that you seemed to have forgotten. Im a woman and proud of it. Have you looked in the jails lately? Whos In there? MEN!

HAHAHA your ridiculously misinformed who the real evils are committed by. Get over your pride, and get a bible cause obviously you havnt read it. Sorry your attempt to make woman out to be monsters isn’t working. Go pray.

April Karaffa


Good afternoon,

I have seen your site, and It did made me sad, because I know that you are doing something that’s not healthy for the humanity. The Bible shows that we must be serious about the things of God. Please, open your eyes for what Jesus wants to tell and show you. I’m so sorry about my form of language, because I’m still learning English.

That’s it, be careful and happy under the wings of God! Jesus loves you!

Natan.


I am unsubscribing from your mailing list!

having been a member for some time, I have begun to more carefully read your articles and I think some are uncalled for. My kids are right here looking at it and you put nudity on there!Every article I read I completely diagreed with and yes I am a christian. Half of what I read I have not seen in my Bible. What Bible are you reading? The final thing I'd like to say is that you cannot guarantee someone's salvation. It is their choice, and also you cannot bribe them. I think you need to read the real Bible and quit spreading this trash around.

Breedmadu


Regarding the Wii Article:

First things first, the controllers the mother found her daughter and her friends using does not use infra red lasers, it uses radio signals, and two even if it had infra red lasers she would have not been able to see the infra red beams, human eyes cannot see that spectrum of light. infra red lasers are in tv remotes and older wireless controllers for the ps2 xbox and gamecube systems.  Three, the rest of your article is a bunch of trash, using it to push blame on the video gaming community. Videogames do not cause children to become satanic worshipping killers and what not. the blame actually falls on the parents, who buy the games for their kids so they wont bother them. I worked for a videogame store and majority of the parents didnt even know what the game they were buying for their kids even had in it. It was part of our responsiblties to tell the parent about the games. A lot of parents then refused to buy certain games, but other parents didnt even care. Nintendo is a kid friendly system, the games for their systems vary rarely go over a teen rating. so next time you decide to tell lies about something, make sure you know at least how it operates. i really feel sorry for you and your congregation. Being a christian is not about spreading lies and decieving people. You are what is wrong with the church and makes me proud that I no longer affliate myself with church, I am still a christian and i have seen the problems that are in such churches as yours.

Intelligent Geek


Dear Pastor,

     Have you read the Bible? I'm serious. In the Bible it says absolutely nothing of intolerance towards others, even in the Old Testament! I does ask you to welcome all and accept them into your midst so that they may learn from you. YOU do not have the power to condem men to hell. YOU are NOT the lord our god! Also, it says in the TEN COMMANDMENTS that "thous shalt NOT judge" which is exactly what your site is doing. I can't belive that a christan man can cause so much blasphemy to happen on one page. you should be ashamed of yourself! may the lord forgive you of your sins! lord bless you

a concerned reader



Dear Pastor of Landover Baptist Church,

I am doing research for my Masters in History thesis project.   I am studying religious responses to the 1950s polio epidemic in Canada, Britain, and the United States. I came across an article on your website from 2003 stating that Randall Doyal who "recently developed polio and is confined to a wheelchair" was expelled from the church because he is "Biblically ineligible to enter God's home." The following scriptural reference was given:

And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.  For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous.  Or  a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken" (Leviticus 21:16-20).

I found this information very interesting. 

I would greatly appreciate a response to the following questions, or advice on where I might go to have them answered.

1) Do you have any archival information on similar responses or expulsions in the 1950s for ailments resulting from contraction of polio? Is it safe to assume the Landover Baptist Church expelled "polios" in the 1900s (especially in the 1950s)? How many? 

2) Would all Baptist Churches have expelled (in the 1950s) persons with polio? Or is the Landover Baptist church particularly strict in this regard? As far as Baptist beliefs and their response to disease and illness go, I am trying to figure out if Landover Baptist Church is the exception or the rule to an overall "Baptist Response" to polio.

3) My research so far is indicating that in the 1950s, church attendance in the United States declined, perhaps due to official action or public fear of gathering in places where disease could be caught from others.  In your mind, what do you think would have been the logical response of the Landover pastor in the 1950s? Would he have encouraged his "flock" to stay home?

4) Would people at Landover have prayed that they would not contract polio? Would there be much use in that? Or do Landover Baptists believe in predestination?  (If it's going to happen, it will happen).

5) Would a person paralysed by polio be welcomed back if and after they got better? Or is it once you are out, you are out.

6) I noticed from reading some other articles on your webpage that gender, age, and colour are important factors in your belief system. Would gender, age, ethnicity (skin colour), or class, be a contributing factor in expelling a "polio" from the church? Or would all polios have been expelled regardless of age, gender, "race", etc.

7) Would they have been welcomed back if they got better (no longer showed any sign of being paralyzed?)

8) Would paralysis caused by polio be interpreted as punishment for personal sin? Societal sin?

9) Would the entire family of the person who had polio be expelled from the church? If so, why?

10) Were/are Landover Baptists allowed to receive the polio vaccination?  If not, why?

11) Do you consider yourself having the authority/historical background to answer these questions? Why or why not?  Were you a member of the church at the time? Are there archival documents available to historians who are looking to have these questions answered?

12) Was Landover the major church in Iowa in the 1950s? How many people or families were registered at Landover in 1950? In 1960?

13) Does the interpretation of the Bible and general religious beliefs change over time, or would you say that the Landover Church is pretty much the same as it was when it began in 1692?

14) Curiosity Question: Your website states that the website is "not intended for readers under 18 years of age." What is the reason for this?

Thank you very much.

Best wishes,

Ginny Bodsworth

Ontario, Canada

 


 




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